Re: [-empyre-] critical boundaries -- Forwarded message from PatrickSimons

["marc.garrett" <marc.garrett@furtherfield.org>]

I have been reading various txt's regarding muisc/noise...

I myself am a musician (& net artist) and am sadly convinced that narrative
has been extricated from music so not to declare a message, political or
emotional intent - abstract sound is of course an explorative and intutive
form of expression. And has some great dudes whom have declared many
treasures to the listening world. Yet I cannot help thinking that to deny
experimental music because it has 'voice' is an institutional misguided
remit.

My band 'Ouch Those Monkeys' have been making noise for a while now. In fact
I have creating experimental sounds/muisc since 79. Have run various pirate
radio stations in my time. Yet, I feel that singing/using words is easily
left to the disposable pop world, and not explored enough by the more
contemporary electro musicians.

When one apllies to sound conferences - i get the impression that it is just
not the done thing to sing...

An explorative and prolific Darkwave, net-based band. Creating sounds
that are primarily electronic, using computers to cut up noises/beats
that grind with a playful and poetic dysfunction.

http://www.furtherfield.org/otmonkeys/docs/all_trax.htm - choose a track or
2 to listen.

best from marc

http://www.furtherfield.org





>
> -------Original Message-------
> From: Patrick Simons
> Sent: 08/08/03 04:10 AM
> To: empyre-owner@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au
> Subject: critical boundaries
>
>
> I share Keith's sense of a lack of critical analysis re. sound art
circles, I get my intellectual stimulation from a different place, and the
net art community, in a broader context offers that I think.
>
> Perhaps a part of the reason for a lack of deeper analysis (for me that
means political and economic) in a generalised sense among sound art circles
is a consequence of the institutional boundaries mentioned, that for some
reason, the focus within music/sound education has been on the
deconstruction of technique and composition, rather than the place that
sound/music in art has played.
>
> It strikes me that visual art, for all its dyslexic mutterings has
attempted to engage the social world with art, whereas
compositio(music/sound/noise) has only really done so when it is part of a
collective attempt to do so, with the futurists, dada, black Mountain
college etc.
>
> I as a sound artist blame the conservatoire/music academy for the
failings, not the art academy.
>
> best wishes
>
> Patrick
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